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Bad Messenger
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Posted - 2012.08.19 18:31:00 -
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Amarr had lot of systems, but after they got those, they already decided that they can not keep those.
So why to whine that CCP ruined everything? FW is going just as amarr wanted. |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:17:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Ashera Yune wrote:Now all minmatar has to do is take over every single system and then after that, No more offensive plexes to farm.
A final blow and a destruction to Fwarmville. No, minmatar alts come and farm gallente space, then caldari alts farm minmatar space, then minmatar alts farm ... wait im lost.
Caldari in not going to shoot systems anymore, so soon there is no farming for gallente or minmatar. |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:31:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Caldari in not going to shoot systems anymore, so soon there is no farming for gallente or minmatar. Thank you! I will happily play FW and cash out every month at Tier 3/4 with the meager LP I make while pvp'ing.
well you might understood it bit wrong, we let gallente to shoot ihubs with their alts.
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Posted - 2012.08.20 08:00:00 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote: You skipped over one of the major points which is how does the loosing side keep fighting when their isk dries up?
Minmatar are sololy after protecting their valued systems, which is understandable - but an often side effect is having literaly an enire fleet (most notebly Stabber fleets, blackbirds) to fight one or two people, in simple - alot of minmatar militia are not interested in pvp, but are just interested in protecting their systems
There is nothing wrong if people want to play faction warfare. Amarr got their isk, but they decided not to fight, so it is not about money it is about will. |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 08:08:00 -
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David Devant wrote:I'm going to make a controversial point because I think it might be constructive.
The Amarr militia has no good FCs. By that. I mean it has no one who will ball up 20 or so cross militia pilots and throw them around. Individual corps are happy to play, but no one will take a lead like Neph or BSC used to.
If TMFED pulled their fingers out *ahem* they would be more than capable of fulfilling this role, but it would probably require them flying ships like plain old bingers and canes to its a no go.
The Amarr militia needs some leadership. I hope it gets it soon...
FW is not about Fleet fights really.
FW is about system control war and most important thing in this new system is to stop farming alts, to stop those you have to split forces all over FW area to chase farmers off. When farmers are no longer problem you can defend systems better.
If you do not stop farmers there is no point to run even fleets. You need bigger fleets only when busting ihubs.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 09:36:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.
I do :P
I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).
When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.
Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves. Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock. Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship. Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(
We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).
TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else. There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.
So STFU :P
we are terrible though btw...........
p.s. Gump has a specific comb for his beard
Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies.
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:41:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.
I do :P
I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).
When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.
Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves. Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock. Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship. Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(
We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).
TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else. There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.
So STFU :P
we are terrible though btw...........
p.s. Gump has a specific comb for his beard Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies. Going to elaborate or was that just a post to accenuate your name? Edit* actually I just did something there I'd rather not do so don't answer, it's fine. I'm being drawn into forum posting because I'm unhappy at all the shitposting and really, no matter how much I can answer all the dumb assery all i actually end up becoming is a shitposter like everyone else. Carry on :P
I do not really know what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to play FW or just get some PVP? If you try to play FW sov warfare you are doing wrong. Also it seems that you do not get PVP either.
So can you even tell what you are trying to do? |

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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:25:00 -
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Xolve wrote:sYnc Vir wrote:[i]No Amarr lost because we were never willing to plex, pretty much it really. Everyone saw what happens when both sides have plexers willing and able. I blame Wolfsbrigade because Battleships and Triage Carriers don't fit into Plexes. sYnc Vit wrote:Just because we left FW doesn't mean we're heading to null. Nullsec is the single most boring space to live in eve. The players their are dumber then losec, blob more then losec, smack worse then losec and are generally poorer at pvp then losec. Also bubbles. While my first post was completely sarcastic, this however isn't. Complaining about bubbles? Really? How to MWD?
press mwd module with mouse |

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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:32:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Xolve wrote:Complaining about bubbles? Really?
How to MWD? Bubbles are the single reason I don't roam in nullsec. If you decide to take a suicide charge fight, you don't just pay for the thrasher, you generally for for it and the pod. I like lowsec specifically because of the lack of sov crap (of which I include bubbles, they are region control. No-one owns lowsec). And yes, I am not a fan of station lockouts either in lowsec. The reason I went to FW long long ago instead of nullsec was precisely "hey, I don't have to worry about getting locked out of my stuff". Also Bubbles.
bubles are you friend not enemy. |

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Posted - 2012.08.24 06:52:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Dan Carter Murray wrote:I mean you swapped over zarnak, why did you swap over? probably because you were one of the few that actually liked to challenge yourself instead of being in the x*SFI, y*blackbird, z*whateverelse fleets that outnumber and outclass everyone.
almity or someone even mentioned that their pilots fly ruptures against SFI blobs because that's the only thing IO/LNA does consistently well at. outnumber the enemy with SFI/ECM and call everyone pussies for running.
We fought them, regardless as to what numbers we had- and even though we took heavy thrasher losses, we always came out ahead in overall damage done. All it takes is a few brave recon pilots (or blackbirds and griffins) and a horde of those '**** fit thrashers' you guys keep talking about. We found a way around it, with 4m SP alts... crying blob and staying docked is just a cop out for 'I can't think of a logical way to harass my enemy'.
Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.
Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.
If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely. |
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Posted - 2012.08.31 13:39:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Whole FW is easier when you realize that FW is more than fight in one system.
Amarr has always had same problem, they try to fight for one or two systems at same time.
If you attack whole area at same time, no one is going to blob all of you, some of you may get raped but others can do their job freely. Because up until recently, Amarr had to use gangs to plex anything other than minor's. We harbingers of justice, light and goodwill towards man were not thrust into the war with a silver spoon in our mouths like the three other sides were .. we've had to actually work for our gains. Of course now its just a Farm War so it makes little if any difference, but I fully expect the divide'n'conquor paradigm to be used when/if things change and Amarr get to keep the ability to plex on even terms with all the Slaves-in-Waiting.
I've been capturing plexes also for amarr in the past, i do not see those any harder than any other faction, those have their own tricks but as whole nothing really differs. |

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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:03:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Im sure everyone is starting to see the writing thats been on the wall for 6 months, finally.
Lets sum this all up shall we.
CCP make it ALL about the isk and systems
CCP make it easy for a 1 day alt to not only make A HUGE AMOUNT of isk but also slap years old fw pvpers in the face with lockouts doing pve
CCP also add a nice bonus to winners who can farm missions once they have done all the plexes/systems.
Players start joining "winning side" set out by the one with most systems before inferno patch hit
Players start leaving losing side for no isk and poorer pvp
Players start leaving winning side for lack of good pvp
EVE realises that one day alt isk printing leading to main assisted lvl 4 farming makes insane money for little effort against few pvpers/pirates
FW dies and shrivels into isk alts and die hard pvpers that either dont need the isk, or are farming the other side themselves.
Nice job ccp.
really well ******* done.
The bit that really hurts is EVERYONE told you this was going to happen 2-3 months BEFORE the patch. Thats bad stuff ccp, as a 9 year old addict im very disappointed. When i come to the ten year fanfest devs can buy ME a beer :P
FW was already dead before inferno.
Now FW area is much more active than for a long time, people want some easy pvp but faction warfare is not about pvp, it is about system control, it is up to players if they want to make system control as pvp or pve. Tools are there.
Anyway FW lp store changes and easy lp is only one way to nerf highsec missioner income without nerfing anything, they boosted fw and made lowsec more alive. Content may not be so challenging but i think it is good for many players to farm with alts and find out that lowsec is not so scary place after all.
Players wanted reason to take FW plexes, now there is reason to take those, it is just how players wanted it. You can not force players to pvp ever, because it is only game, and people usually takes easiest route. Making plexing too hard end this all farming and ends all action as well.
Farmer is true FW player, rest are just free load. |

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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:19:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:They have posted Winter upgrade ideas in the F&I section. Highlights:
More, better upgrades. At upgrade 5 - temporary one use cyno jammer. 300k to upgrade a system rather then 150k. Fee to upgrading based on system control. The fee is 75% when you control the majority of the systems. This means it costs 1.2 million LP for Minmatar to raise a system to 5. LP store prices are constant. WZC affects how fast you earn LP. Tier 1 - 50%. Tier 2 - normal. Up to Tier 5 - 200%. Slower upgrade bleed out. 10% per plex rather then the current 50%. Defensive plex LP. Based on % contested of system. Max 75%.
good way to end FW once again :) |

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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:18:00 -
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It seems that new changes will end farming and systems upgrades, and everyone return to missioning.
There is no more point to take systems, only some agent stations may be important.
Driving force of flipping systems, tier 5 priced lp shop, will be gone,
If you manage to make tier 5 and get lot of lp, it means that you have to farm cross militia systems, and if vulnerable systems does not give lp there is no more systems to take, because you can not even shoot cross militia bunkers.
And if you get only 1/16 of lp in tier1 who is going to take systems anymore, no one. Now you get lp and you can trust that some day you can cash it out, but in new system you will lose lp on the moment you take it so there is no future gain on bigger goal.
System flipping is over. FW will die once again. Amarr will be the loser for ever. |
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